THIRTY ONE
VERSIONS OF HELL
William Robert West
Author of
The Rapture and Israel
and
A Resurrection To Immortaity
OVER NINETEEN PROTESTANT
VERSIONS OF HELL
NINE OTHER VERSIONS OF HELL
THREE CATHOLIC VERSIONS OF HELL
THIRTY-ONE PLUS VERSIONS OF HELL
Where is Hell? What is
Hell? There are over 31 different versions of what Hell is that are commonly
believed in Christianity and many more versions of what Hell are in
non-Christian religion of the world. While some of the divisions have some
features that are similar, they are all difference, and each division has sharp
disagreements with all the other divisions. Those that believe any one of the
thirty-one plus divisions of Hell are in conflict with all those that believe
any of the other thirty plus divisions. It would not be possible for more than
one of the many versions of Hell to be true. In the thousands of denominations
around the world professing to be Christian there are countless divisions on
what Hell is, where Hell is, who is over Hell, how long will Hell last, many
others, with many others divisions of what Hell is in the non–Christian religions of the world; below is
only thirty one of many.
THREE
CATHOLIC VERSIONS OF HELL
1. The Dark Age Medieval Catholic version of Hell
2. The New Catholic version of Hell
3. The Nether World
A FEW OF THE MANY THE
PROMINENT
DIVISIONS OF THE
PROTESTANT VERSIONS OF HELL
1. The
underground chamber Hell
2.
The who knows where
it is Hell.
3. The Calvin
version of Hell
4. The Jonathan
Edward versions of Hell
5.
The Graphic view of Hell
6. Two Hells, the literal fire Hell
7.
Satan doing the tormenting
8.
God doing the tormenting
9. The Metaphorical view of both Heaven and Hell
11. Mental anguish only Hell, Billy Graham
12. The eternal sinning version of Hell
13. C. S. Lewis, the almost pleasant Hell
14. Protestant Traditionalist
15. Many Protestant Premillennial versions of Hell
16.
DanteÕs cold Hell with nine levels of torment
17. Realized Eschatology – A. D. 70 version
18. The ÒSudden RealizationÓ version of Hell i
19. Protestant Rephaim versions
NINE OTHER DIVISIONS
OF WHAT HELL IS
1. AbrahamÕs bosom, the after Judgment Hell, A newer version,
Church of Christ, Christian Church.
2. Edward Fudge version, the short Hell that will end
3. Christadelphians version of Hell
4. Church of God and others
5. Universalist version of Hell
6. Seventh-Day Advent version of Hell
7. Latter-day Saints version of Hell (Mormons)
8. The Grave is Hell version (Jehovah's Witnesses)
9. Christian Science Version of Hell
NO BIBLE HELL
1. There is nothing about Hell in the Bible. Hell was invented in the Dark Age by the Catholic Church.
Which Hell do you believe in? From where did Hell come?
THREE
CATHOLIC DIVISIONS OF HELL
(1).
The Medieval Dark Age Catholic version of Hell, the beginning of the belief in
Hell was the Hell was a chamber inside of the earth. A soul
being immortal came from Greek philosophy, from the belief that souls had some
kind of exists in a place inside of earth unto they were reincarnated, and was
brought into the church by a few of the church fathers, by Augustine more then
most others. The doctrine of Hell being an under ground chamber came soon after
the immortal soul doctrine, and was fully developed by the Dark Age Catholic
Church before the Protestant Reformation. It seems to be that in the past they
believed that only a very few, the very bad will go to Hell at their death with
no judgment, which the Catholics had made into a real place, but most souls that
had been in Catholics will go to Purgatory at death. Later they made A few of the
souls that had been in the very good will go to Heaven at their death with no
judgment (an instant rapture). At death most Catholic will go immediately to
Purgatory, which seems to be a limited version of Hell, unto they have suffered
enough to pay for their sins, or unto their love ones have paid all they can,
then the souls that had been in them will go to Heaven. How long a soul will be
in Purgatory is sometimes taught to be a short time, and sometimes a very long
time to those who have no one to win indulgences for them, no one to pay. It
has brought enormous wealth to the rich Catholic Church from the poor who paid
what little they had, and even done without food to help a loved one out of
Purgatory. The Catholic Purgatory gives no hope for heathens, heretics, or
those not baptized. The Catholic Doctrine of Purgatory (1) makes some go to
Heaven or Hell at death, (2) makes other Catholics get to Heaven as soon as they
(not Christ) have suffered enough to pay for their own sins, (3) leaves no
souls that had been in dead Catholics that will not already be in Heaven to be
resurrected at the second coming of Christ. They, not Christ, will have
suffered unto they have paid in full for their own sins, or others have paid
enough money to free their souls from Purgatory. An example of the Catholic
teaching on the selling of indulgences that was common before the time of
Martin Luther as given by John Tetzel, a Dominican monk who said as soon as the
money is given, ÒThe soul escapes from purgatory, and flies liberated to
heaven,Ó and ÒThe Lord no longer reignsÉHe has given all power to the pope.Ó As
quoted by F. LaGard Smith of Lipscomb University in ÒAfter Life,Ó pages
223-224.
Connelly – Field
debate, ÒTetzel had the presumption to say, that he had saved more souls out of
purgatory by the sale of indulgences than Pater saved by his preaching,Ó page
254. If a soul in purgatory paid for the sins of the person, the sins are not
forgiven by the death of Christ; the suffering of a soul in purgatory pays for
the sins of the dead person that soul had been in.
S.
M. BROWN, ÒMedieval Europe,Ó pages 348-259, 1932. ÒHell is wide without
measure, and deep and bottomless; full of incomparable fire, for no earthly
fire may be compared therewith; full of stench intolerable for no living thing
on earth might endure it; full of unutterable sorrow for no mouth may, on
account of the wretchedness or the woe thereof, give an account not tell of it.
Yea, the darkness therein is so thick that one may grasp it, for the fire there
gives no light, but blinds the eyes of them that are there with a smothering
smoke, the worst of smokes. And nevertheless in that same black darkness they
see black things as devils, that ever maul them and afflict and harass them
with all kinds of tortures; and tailed drakes, horrible as devils, that devour
them whole and spew them out afterwards before and behind. At other times they
rent them in pieces and chew each gobbet of them, and they afterwards become
whole again, such as they previously were, to under go again such bale with
recovery, and full well they see themselves very horrible and dreadful; and to
increase their pains the loathsome hell-worms, toads, and frogs that eat out
their eyes and nostrils, and adders and water-frogs, not like those here, but
hundred times more horrible, sneak in and out of the mouth, ears, eyes, navel
ever yet thickest. There is shrieking in the flame and chattering of teeth in
the snowy waters. Suddenly they flit upon the heat into the cold, nor ever do
they know of there two which is worst for them, for each is intolerableÉAnd
this same wan hope is their greatest torment, that none have any hope of any
recovery, but are sure of ever ill, to continue in woe, world without end, even
in eternity. Each chokes the other, and each in anotherÕs torment, and each
hates another and him self as the black devil; and as they loved them the more
in this world, so the more shall they hate them there. And each curses another,
and gnaws off the otherÕs arms, ears, and nose also.Ó As quoted by Robert L.
Whitelaw in ÒThe Last Resurrection,Ó pages 61-62.
This is the ÒHellÓ that was taught by the Catholic Church, but there is
nothing like it in the Bible. It came partly from pagan teaching, but mostly
from made up torments by the Catholic Church.
(2). The new Catholic
version of Hell.
POPE JOHN PAUL II, "Hell is not a punishment imposed externally by
God, but the condition resulting from attitudes and actions which people adopt
in this life...So eternal damnation is not God's work but is actually our own
doing...More than a physical place, Hell is the state of those who freely and
definitively separate themselves from God, the source of all life and
joy." In a statement made to his general audience, July 28, 1999. - ÒThe soul in the OT means not a part of
man, but the whole man as a living being. Similarly in the NT, it signifies
human life: the life of an individual conscious object (Matt 2:20; 6:25; Luke
12:22-23; 14:26; John 10:11,15, 17; John 13:37; Acts 27:10, 22; Phil 2:30; 1
Thess 2:8). Recent exegetesÉhave maintained that the NT dose not teach the
immortality of the soul in the Hellenistic sense of survival of an immortal
principle after death.Ó The New Catholic Encyclopedia, article ÒSoul, Human,
Immortality of, In The Bible.Ó
There are other high up Catholics who have made statements like this,
but I see no use in adding more when you have this from the Pope who is the top
person in the Catholic Church whoÕs word is law, who Catholics say is ÒLord God
in the flesh.Ó Maybe this is why two of their English Bible translations do not
have the word "Hell" in them, and who knows how many other Catholics
translations in other languages do not; however, because it has been the
official doctrine for centuries, and the decrees of councils and Popes, the
Roman Catholic Church cannot officially not teach Hell is a place of eternal
torment without giving up completely their claim of infallibility.
Protestantism has not made this claim of infallibility and many are giving Hell
up.
(3). The Nether World,
is this a new, a third Catholic division of what Hell is. More and more
in today's writing, the Nether World is being used as if it is a Bible place
that is clearly taught in the Bible; but I have yet to read where anyone told
where it is in the Bible. Do both the Nether World and Abraham's bosom now
exists at the same time? If so, how are they different? Are some souls now in Abraham's
bosom and other soul are now in the Nether world both at the same time? The
American Heritage Dictionary says, ÒNETHER, located beneath or below; lower or
under: the nether regions of the earth.Ó Where
did this world that is located
beneath or under this world come from? It is not in the Bible; therefore,
how could anyone know about it? It came from the Catholic Church. Like Hell,
they mistranslated it from hades to get it into the Bible. Both Hell and Nether World were mistranslated from the same word, both
from hades, and both from the same passage in difference translations. See
Acts 2:27
Psalm 16:10
in two Catholic translations
1. SHEOL CHANGED TO HELL, ÒBecause thou wilt not leave my soul in hell"
Douay–Rheims, also Psalm 16:10, 1890.
2.
SHEOL
CHANGED TO NETHER WORLD, ÒFor you will not abandon my soul to the Nether World" New American Bible, Psalm 16:10, 1991.
Both
are Catholic translations. THERE IS NO WAY THE SAME WORD IN THE SAME
PASSAGE COULD MEAN BOTH ÒHELLÓ AND ÒNETHER WORLD.Ó
1.
ÒFor Thou wilt not abandon my soul to SheolÓ Psalm 16:10 New American
Standard. Sheol (grave) was not translated Hell or Nether World in it.
2.
ÒYou will not abandon me to the realm of the deadÓ Psalm 16:10 New
International Version. Sheol changed to Òrealm
of the dead,Ó which is not in the Hebrew.
The Nether World is a
new name being put into the Bible by the same people (the Catholic Church) who
put Hell into the Bible, and it is being put into the Bible in the same way, by
mistranslating the same word that was mistranslated to put in Hell.
1. First, hades
was mistranslated Hell in Catholic translations that in the Dark Age they
believed was under the earth.
2. Second, the
same word, hades, in the same passage that was mistranslated ÒHellÓ is now
mistranslated Nether World in some Catholic translations. Nether World – a place
that is beneath or below the earth.
It worked for them the first time, so they
tried it a second time. When they need to prove Hell, they use one
mistranslation; and when they need to prove the Nether World, they use another
mistranslation of the same word in the same passage.
SOME OF THE
MANY DIVISIONS
OF THE EVER
CHANGING AND GROWING
PROTESTANT VERSIONS OF HELL
As in any teaching of man there are divisions, thirty-one difference
Hells that I know of and no doubt there are many divisions that I do not know
of.
After much
conflict among the reformers, most Protestants accepted souls going to Heaven
or Hell one by one at the death of the persons they had been in without the
Resurrection at the coming of Christ, going to Heaven or Hell before and
without the judgment.
Unconditional
immortality, which is the foundation on which Hell stands, was accepted mostly
due to Calvin and those that followed him winning out over Martin Luther and
his followers. If they had accepted Luther's views on immortality there would
be no foundation for Hell. Many Protestants believe souls that are in all who
do not accept Christ will instantly be transported to Hell at the death of the
person a soul had been in, transported to Hell before the resurrection and
before the Judgment Day; that God has deliberately chooses to make these souls
suffer and feel the pain without any letup forever; and that the souls that had
been in the saved will go to their endless home in Heaven at the death of the
persons that they had been in. The Westminster Confession says, "The souls
of the righteous...are received unto the highest heavens...the soul of the
wicked are cast into Hell." Does God judge them at death, them maybe
thousands of years later, takes souls out of Heaven and Hell to judge them a second
time at the resurrection to see whether He made a mistake in His first judgment
at their death? This version is still believed by many today.
Both (1) an opposition to belief in Hell, and (2) divisions on what Hell
is are both rapidly growing in the Protestant
churches. From the Protestant Reformation unto now there have been
many changes in both what and where Hell is, and many new Protestant versions
of Hell.
(1). THE UNDERGROUND
CHAMBER HELL.
Pagan philosophers mostly believed a soul was somewhere
underground where it had some kind of existent unto it was reincarnated was
believed in by most of the world that was not Christian. The Catholic Dark Age
Pagan Catholic Hell where souls was kept someplace inside of the earth came
from Pagan philosophers. That all Souls being in this underground chamber has been believed for centuries by Catholics, and by most
Protestants unto lately.
(2). THE WHO KNOWS
WHERE IT IS HELL. Lately many Protestants and even many Catholics have moved the
dead from a chamber inside of the earth where they had believed it to be for
many centuries to a new made up place that who knows where it is, maybe some
place out in space, but not on or inside of the earth.
Others now have all
souls in AbrahamÕs bosom where they believe all souls will be unto the
Judgment, and the souls that were in the lost dead persons will have some kind
of torment unto the resurrection; then the souls will be moved from where ever
AbrahamÕs bosom is to Heaven or Hell. See chapter eight-part one ÒThe Rich Man
And Lazarus.Ó
(3). THE
CALVIN VERSION OF HELL. The given no
chance Hell. An early Protestant Version with a God that made most of mankind
knowing that after their death He is going to torment souls that had been in
them in Hell forever, and there is nothing a person can do to keep a soul that many
believe is in them from going to Hell after they are dead, a God that made the
conditions of salvation that most could not meet, but He is going to endless torment
a soul because He made the person where he or she would not be able to meet His
conditions. This God made most of mankind just so He could torment souls that He
put in them forever as their creed says, "To his good pleasure;" if
it were Òto his good pleasureÓ to torment for eternity there would be no way to
escape the conclusion that tormenting is just what such a God wants to do and
takes pleasure (enjoyment) in doing it; predestinated endless torment could
serve only one purpose, an infinite desire to torment; a torment that this evil
Calvin God made to never end.
No amount of
preaching or teaching can change the number of souls that shall be in CalvinÕs
Hell not even by one soul. The Westminster Confession says, "By the decree
of God, for the Manifestation of his glory, some men and angels are
predestinated unto Everlasting Life, and others foreordained unto everlasting
death;" this view believes God loves a few and saves the souls that are in
them, but that He hates most, that He could save the souls that are in all
persons but He want to torment them; Calvinist believe GodÕs anger will be
visited upon on the souls that had been in the dead rebels whose rebellion was
preordained by God; how could anyone say God is love when they believe He dose
not want most of mankind saved, that He made them just so He could torment souls?
Some Protestants still believe this version of Hell that their God made most of
mankind just so He could torment souls for eternity, but this version of Hell
is not near as poplar as it was a few years ago and is losing believers even in
the churches that teach it. Those who say they are orthodox Protestants but do
not believe the Calvin Version of Hell for out number those who still believe
it.
JOHN CALVIN said of those in Hell that they are, ÒForever harassed with
a dreadful tempest; that shall feel themselves torn asunder by an angry God,
and transfixed and penetrated by mortal stings, terrified by the thunderbolts
of God, and broken by the weight of his hand, so that to sink into any gulf
would be more tolerable than to stand for a moment in these terrors.Ó There is
nothing like this in the Bible, he made it up, it is pure slander of God.
In
the Dark Age the Catholics invented Limbo to soften the doctrine on Hell by
keeping infants out of Hell. The Protestant Reformation repudiated Limbo, but
Calvin invented Òthe age of accountableÓ to do the same thing. Both are the
inventions of man and there is nothing like them is in the Bible.
(4). THE JONATHAN EDWARD VERSION OF HELL. Also an early Protestant Version;
this traditionalist version of Hell is an eternal concentration camp that is
maintained by God with most souls in it. There was a time when most Protestants
believed this version of Hell, but now only a few believe it. There are countless variations of the
Jonathan Edward version of Hell, both major and minor variations, about as many
as there are preachers who preach it with each preacher trying to out do the
others in telling of the horrors of Hell; each one trying to make the God of
Hell more evil then the others have. Most taught God had given Hell over to
Satan with God making sure that Satan will roast most souls forever, and
torment them however Satan wishes to. Some have demons peeling off the burning
flash of those in Hell with God making sure they keep it up forever. Some now have
God doing the tormenting of Satan, the demons, and tormenting souls that had
been in the lost, with God forever pouring in fire and brimstone, and thousands
of other ways of tormenting. In the past it was taught in books and painting,
(see 6 below) ÒSatan will be doing the tormenting version of Hell.Ó Now
most that did believe this version of Hell have changed it to being God not
Satan that is doing the tormenting. Jonathan Edward
said God "will crush their blood out and make it fly, so that it will
sprinkle his garment and stain all his raiment." They never tell how they
know such details. Put all their horrors together and it would take many books
to tell all the horrors that are pure fiction with nothing that is even
remotely kin in the Bible to the countless horrors they tell of, yet they
falsely preach these made up falsehoods and teach them as if they were the word
of God; many of these preachers get very specific with the details of the
torment. EdwardsÕ God is like a person that puts cats in a microwave oven for
pleasure, and Heaven take delight in seeing the other souls squirming in agony.
Jonathan Edward in ÒSinners in the Hands of an Angry GodÓ said, ÒThe smoke of
their burning flesh shall be a sweet smelling savor in the nostrils of the
Almighty.Ó
These
"Hellfire" preachers are not as poplar as they once were, and their audience is much smaller and still getting smaller. It
is unimportant to them if they have no Bible for their Hell or its horrors; the
badly mistranslated King James Version is all they need to make their Hell
believable to many with whatever kind of torments their imagination wanted to
put in it. Some believers of the Calvin version also believe much of this
version and mix the two version of Hell together. There is not much unity of
belief among the Protestants of today. In almost any church if the preacher
started preached sermons about Hell that are like the one's Edward preached he
would be out of work very soon. The God Edward believed in would have no
problem with tormenting souls that had been in the lost; his God would take great
pleasure in tormenting, and according to Edward, the saints in Heaven will
watch with pleasure and satisfaction. The worst torment any man can or ever has
given to another man is nothing to what Jonathan Edward described his God is doing
in his sermon, ÒSinner in the Hands of an Angry God.Ó
The Protestant
doctrines of Hell as taught by Calvin and Edward are as hideous and evil as
anything that was taught in the Dark Age by the Catholic Church; God is made to
use His power to keep souls that had been in sinners alive even while they are being
burned with a fire that would kill in seconds just so He can torment souls without
end. When Jesus was in this world He loved sinners and give His life for them,
but both Calvin and Edward makes neither God nor Christ not to have any
compassion and no love for the souls that were not in the ÒfewÓ that He has
chosen to save.
In the not too
distance past either the Calvin or the Edward Hell was taught and most Protestants
believed one or the other one, but what is believed about Hell is ever changing
and now most Protestants do not
believed in either one, now both of these
two views of Hell have been given up by many orthodox Protestant churches, and
many others have toned down the Hell they teach unto todays Hell is noting like
the older views of Hell.
(5).
THE ÒREVISIONISTÓ VERSION OF HELL. Is a
reaction to the traditional versions of Hell, an attempt to take the monster
out of God that the Catholic, Calvin, Edward, and other divisions make Him to
be by taking the Hell out of Hell. This version of
Hell takes the suffering out of Hell and makes it into a place for those to
live that have chosen to live separate from God. There will be no joy in this
ÒHellÓ as there will be in Heaven with God, but there will be no pain or
torment by God, just bare existence.
(6). THE GRAPHIC VERSION OF HELL. The sinners will be tormented in the parts of their bodies
that sinned.
WILLIAM CROCKETT, "In short, whatever member of the body sinned,
that member would be punished more than any other in hell...In Christian
literature we find blasphemers hanging by their tongues. Adulterous women who
plaited their hair to entice men dangle over boiling mire by
their...hair." page 46, ÒFour Views on Hell," 1997.
There is no way that
this version of Hell could be harmonized with VineÕs teaching that a soul is,
ÒThe immaterial, invisible part of man;Ó his souls do not have tongues or hair.
(7). TWO HELLS, THE
LITERAL FIRE HELL. Augustine said, ÒThat hell, which also is called a lake
of fire and brimstone, will be material fire and will torment the bodies of the
damned.Ó This literal version of Hell is where the earthly bodies of the lost,
not souls, are literally burning for all eternality but can never burn up;
while the body is tormented in Hell, the soul will also be being tormented,
body and soul are both tormented, but both are tormented separately; the body
or person in one Hell, and a soul that had been in the person in another Hell.
SPURGEON, one of the best known of Baptist preachers, said, "When
thou driest, thy soul will be tormented alone; that will be a hell for it; but
at the day of judgment thy body will join thy soul and then thou wilt have twin hells, thy soul sweating drops of blood, and
thy body suffused with agony. In fire exactly like that which we have on earth,
thy body will lie, asbestos like, forever unconsumed, all thy veins roads for
the feet of pain to travel on, every nerve a string on which the devil shall
forever play his diabolical tune of hell's unutterable lament." From his
sermon "The Resurrection of the Dead." Like most who believe God will
forever torment many billions, he must have some revelation that is not in the
Bible to tell him about their suffering. In his day most orthodox Protestants
believed the Devil would be doing the tormenting, but today most orthodox
Protestants think he was wrong, that God is the one who will be doing the
tormenting. The man made "Hell" is forever changing. What was
orthodox in his day is no longer orthodox. For many Baptists his truth is no
longer truth.
(8). SATAN WILL BE DOING THE TORMENTING VERSION OF HELL. Satan and his angels will be doing the tormenting, but
they could only be executing the will of God that the lost be tormented for
they could not torment souls that had been in the lost without God letting
them. This view was believed by most in the Dark Age, and by most Jonathan
Edward preachers who often speak of Òthe devil HellÓ as though Hell was a place
that belonged to Satan. Most Protestants have now abandon the view of Satan and
his demons doing the tormenting, but I remember that this was believed by most
when I was a child, and was what most Protestants believed at that time. Many
painting in museums and churches show Satan and his demons roasting those in
Hell, and tormenting them in every way the painters could think up.
HENRY WARD BEECHES speaking
of Michael Angelo's painting, The Last Judgment said, "Let anyone see the
enormous gigantic coils of fiends and man; let anyone look at the defiant
Christ that stands like a superb athlete at the front, hurling his enemies from
him and calling his friends toward him as Hercules might have done; let anyone
look upon that hideous wriggling mass that goes plunging down through the
air-serpents and man and beasts of every nauseous kind, mixed together; let him
look at the lower parts of the picture, where with the pitchforks men are by
devils being cast into cauldrons and into burning fires, where hateful fiends
are gnawing the skulls of suffering sinners, and where there is hellish
cannibalism going on–let a man look at that picture and scenes which it
depicts, and he sees what were the ideas which man once had of Hell and of
divine justice. It was a night-mare as hideous as was ever begotten by the
hellish brood it-self; and it was an atrocious slander on God...I do not wonder
that men have reacted from these horrors."
There are hundreds or thousands of this kind of paintings in museums and
Catholic Churches around the world, especially in Italy, that were painted in
the Dark Age, and they show what was believed about who would torment the lost.
These painting show a God that is bringing millions into existence ever year
and then casting them to demons for the demons to torment.
Satan and his demons are never punished in this version of Hell. Satan and evil spirits are
forever over "Hell," and will forever be able to torment most souls
that had been in mankind. Instead of being punished, they will have forever
triumphed over God, and they will forever have a kingdom of their own where
they will work their evil on souls as they please to, and as it gives them
pleasure. This version of Hell makes there be something like two kingdoms or
two universes after the judgment, one with Satan over it with most souls that
had been in the lost before the death of the persons, but these souls are now
in SatanÕs kingdom, and God over a much smaller number of souls in His kingdom.
Both God and Satan would have eternal power in their kingdom in this division
between Heaven and Hell; this Hell would mean God would not ever have a victory
over evil.
(9). GOD WILL BE DOING THE TORMENTING VERSION
OF HELL. Most Protestants have changed and
now believe Satan and his angels will be tormented by God just as all souls
that had been in the lost of mankind. There has been a major change by many
Protestants from Satan doing the tormenting to God forever being in Hell and God
Himself doing the tormenting of Satan, demons, and all the souls that had been
in all lost persons. Not long ago most Protestants believe Satan would be doing
the tormenting in Hell, now most Protestants say they were all wrong, that it will be God doing the tormenting.
(10). THE METAPHORICAL VIEW OF BOTH HEAVEN
AND HELL. This view tells us we are not
told what Heaven and Hell will literally be like. In this view we are told in
pictures that tell us Heaven will be a place of beauty more than anything on
this earth, and most that believe in Hell tell us that Hell will be worse than
anything on this earth. Because we cannot understand what Heaven will really be
like, we are given the picture of a city with gold streets and pearl gates to
picture for us its great beauty and value, but Heaven will not literally be
made of gold, pearls, or of anything that we have on this earth. The
metaphorical view of Hell says Hell is pictured as a place of fire; being
burned in fire is one of the worst pains we know of, but those that believes this version do not believe it will be
literally fire, as we know it, or literal darkness as we know it. In this
view none of the literal torments of the Calvin and Jonathan Edward Versions
are possible, for they are all things of this earth that will not be in this version
of "Hell." This Hell that is taught by William Crockett in ÒFour
Views On HellÓ in 1997 seems to be growing rapidly, for it is looked on as a
way to make God less evil, but in fact it does not for whatever would be
symbolized by being tormented by eternal fire would be just as bad if not worse
than souls being eternally tormented a literal fire that cannot kill, and God
would still be the one doing the endless tormenting and it would make Him just
as evil.
(11). MENTAL ANGUISH VERSION
OF HELL, Billy Graham and many others. This version of Hell changes Hell from being a real place that
had been believed in by most Protestants; Hell is changed to being a state of
mind.
BILLY GRAHAM, "Could
it be that the fire Jesus talked about is an eternal search for God that is
never quenched? That, indeed, would be hell. To be away from God forever,
separated from His Presence." Page 75, ÒThe Challenge: Sermons from Madison Square Garden,Ó 1969. He
makes Hell be only a state of mind.
ISAAC WATTS in "The World To Come," page 300, makes the worm
be the conscience of a person eating on himself for all eternally. A survey by
US News, January 2000, page 47, says 53 percent of Americans believe Hell to be
only mental anguish.
This
is an attempt by some to lessen the negative effect of Hell making God cruel
and sadistic, but the attempt is a complete failure. Replacing physical torment
with mental anguish does nothing to change Hell by making the torment be less.
Mental anguish can be worse than physical pain, and it would still be unbearable
torment by God without end. Billy Graham, who is an orthodox Protestant, would
in no way been called orthodox by Calvin or Jonathan Edward, nor would many
others that now believe Hell is only mental anguish as he does. The old
orthodox is some times the very opposite of the new orthodox. In the mental anguish version of Hell for
sins after death, HELL IS NOT A PLACE BUT A STATE OF MIND, OF ANGUISH CAUSED BY
SEPARATION FROM GOD, the souls that had been in sinners punishes themself; it
is not God that punishes them, but where are all the souls that are punishing
themselves? IF THEY ARE NOT IN HEAVEN OR HELL, WHERE ARE THEY?
ALEXANDER CAMPBELL, "The sinner's suffering by mental agony,
produced by sin, greater than could be caused by material fire,"
"Five discourses on Hell," 1848. This version of Hell that is
believed by Billy Graham, Alexander Campbell, and over 53 percent of Americans (A
survey by US News, January 2000, page 47) is a totally difference Hell than the
orthodox Hell of Calvin; the real material fire preached by Edward and Calvin
has been replaced with, for lack of a better name, a spiritual fire that mentally
torments, but this fire never burns up anything.
(12). THE ETERNAL
SINNING VERSION OF HELL. Sin is self-perpetuating and the souls that had been
in sinner cannot stop sinning even when tormented in Hell for it; therefore
souls that keep sinning without end makes God have to keep tormenting them
without end. This version makes evil be just as eternal as God, and makes God
never able to destroy evil.
DR.
CRAIG, ÒNow, of course, nobody commits an infinite number of sins in the
earthly life. But what about in the afterlife? Insofar
as the inhabitants of hell continue to hate god and reject Him, they continue
to sin and so accrue to themselves more guilt and more punishment. In a real
sense then, hell is self-perpetuating. In such a case, every sin has a finite
punishment, but because sinning goes on forever, so does the punishment.Ó Graig
Bradley Debate.
This version
of Hell is just another attempt to justify God for tormenting souls for all
eternity for the sins that the persons commented in this lifetime. Some
Protestants believe that the sins of a person in this lifetime are not enough for
a soul to be tormented for all eternity, but all souls that had been in the
lost persons that sins in this lifetime, these souls will keep on sinning after
they are in Hell, and not one soul will ever stop sinning; therefore, the
tormenting of these souls by God will never stop. If all souls in Hell grows
worse and worse as time goes on, after millions of ages have passed the evil of
these in Hell will be to terrible, to revolting to even think upon; who can
believe the revolting evil that will exit, countless times more evil than when
a soul is first put in Hell if evil will be growing without end, if the eternal
sinning version of Hell were true?
ÒSin is the transgression of the law,Ó
therefore, if there were sin after the Judgment Day there would have to be
given a law to transgress. There is not one word about there beings a new law
given to the souls that had been in the dead persons after the judgment; or not
one word that there will be a law and sin after the judgment, and souls that
had been in the lost will continue to sin is a one-hundred present made up
adding to GodÕs word to try to justify endless torment by God. If it were true
that the souls that had been in sinner could never stop sinning after death
then would it not be true that the sinner cannot stop sinning in this lifetime;
therefore, no one could ever be saved?
ALEXANDER
CAMPBELL, "We do not maintain that men are punished eternally for sins
committed in this life only. The analysis of the sufferings of a future
retribution, which we have just given, is itself sufficient evidence of this
fact; for the indulgence of voluntary depravity is itself both sin and
punishment. As a consequence of past sins, the sinner has formed the habit of
sinning. It is a law of man's nature, that habit creates both a tendency to
certain acts, and a facility in their performance. As the result of the habit
of sinning, formed in this life, a tendency to repeat acts of sin is carried on
by the sinner into a future world; and every such act repeated in that world
not only perpetuates, but increases the tendency to further acts of the same kind:
and thus, as by every repeated act the tendency to sin is increased, and as
every act also brings with it its own punishment, so, by the laws of man's
mental and moral nature, the sinner's progress in both sin and suffering in a
future world, is like that of a falling body, which increases its velocity as
the square of the distance increase through which it falls. There is,
therefore, just as little probability that a sinner, left to himself in a
future world, should repent and turn to God, as that a falling body should
arrest itself in its downward course, and ascend to the elevation from which it
fell...surely the assumption that our
doctrine supposes that God punishes sinners eternally for sins committed in
this brief and frail life is wholly gratuitous." "Five Discourses
On Hell," page 65, April 9, 1848, Daniel Davies Publisher.
Is he not saying that
the person that steals in this life time will steal in the next, the person
that commits adultery in this life time will commits adultery in the next life,
or will there be a whole new and different kind of sins in the next life that
souls will have to learn to be able to go on sinning? Is he saying the millions
that live and die without ever hearing about God are harden sinners and that
not a one would ever repent? Human nature is such that it can change; even the
very bad sometimes do change in this lifetime. Is he saying God will change
human nature in such a way that no soul will be able to change, not one of the
many millions of souls will never be able to repent? Will God deliberately
change all so that they cannot stop sinning so He can torment them for all
eternally? This version of Hell makes even the worse sinners able to repent and
change in this lifetime, but after death the souls that had been in all sinners
will go on sinning with not one of them will ever be able to stop. It makes
there be no end to sin.
Not
many members of the Christian Church or the Church of Christ any longer believe
as Alexander Campbell, but it is now being taught by many
Protestants.
(13). C. S.
LEWISÕS THE ALMOST PLEASANT HELL. In ÒGreat DivorceÓ C.
S. Lewis pictures Hell as not black, but only a little gray almost pleasant
place where souls that are that are in Hell can take bus trips into Heaven for
the day and return to Hell. See ÒThe Destruction Of the Finally ImpenitentÓ by
Clark H. Pinnock at, http://www.abccoggc.org.jrad/volume2/issue1/jrad_v02.1_art2.htm. There is an almost constant
rationalizing of the doctrine of Hell to make the God of Hell a less evil God,
even making immaterial souls that we are told are immaterial and have no bodies
but these souls with no bodies take bus trips from Hell to Heaven in a material
bus.
(14). PROTESTANT
TRADITIONALIST DIVISIONS OF HELL. Most who
say they are orthodox and traditionalist believes souls that had been in the
lost persons will be kept alive with some kind of punishment, but beyond this
there is little agreement among them; most Protestants did believe Hell to have
been a holding place inside of the earth, now most Protestants no longer
believe Hell to be inside of the earth and have moved it to who knows where,
maybe someplace out in space; have they not made up a place for Hell to be that
was unknown about by early Protestants? Some believe much as did Jonathan
Edward and Calvin, that there will be torment for all souls that are in Hell
beyond anything that we can now know of. There are many others Protestants who
utterly repudiate both CalvinÕs and Edward's Hell; they believe that there will
be some kind of endless punishment, but it may be nothing more then a little
mental anguish, or just being deprived of all good. Others are at all points
between the two, even when they are in the same denomination. In those who call
themselves "traditionalists," there are wide ranges of views; yet,
they all say they are orthodox and traditionalist! Orthodox is a big blanket,
and growing bigger all the time. Even so, few if any who are orthodox and
traditionalist believe the same, and there is now a world of difference in what
is orthodox in the Protestants churches. Many who say they are orthodox do not
believe in once saved always saved, infant baptism, Augustine's view on
predestination, the millennium, and countless other differences in what is
traditional and orthodox. Although they cannot agree among themselves over what
is traditional, they attack all who do not believe in one of their many
versions of "Hell" for not being orthodox or traditional, nonetheless
accept many as being orthodox who believes in an entirely different
"Hell," and even accept Premillennial, which has many who believe
that Hell will be on this earth, and will last for only a short time.
UNORTHODOX IN ORTHODOX
CHURCHES. It may come as a surprise to many that there may now be more who say they are orthodox Protestants who do not
believe Hell to be a real eternal place of torment than there are orthodox
Protestants who do believe Hell to be an actual real place of eternal torment
by God. When US New says 53 percent of Americans believes Hell to be only
mental anguish, many of that 53 percent are orthodox Protestant, and this 53
percent is in addition to the many Protestant Premillennialists who do not
believe Hell to be a place of torment; who believe Gehenna is Hell and all the
lost will be totally destroyed in it. When some say that is only Jehovah's
Witnesses teaching, they seem to be blind to the fact that this is the teaching
of many of the orthodox Protestants, and the number of orthodox Protestants
that do not believe in the Jonathan Edward or Calvin versions of Hell is now
many times greater then the number that do believe do it. Much of what is accepted as orthodox today would have been called heresy 200
years ago by most all Protestant Churches of that time. It came as a surprise
to me, as I am sure it will be to many, that many orthodox Protestants believe
none of the saved will go to Heaven, but the saved will live on this earth for
eternity; many Protestant Premillennialists believe this. It may also come as a
surprise to many that those who say they are orthodox Protestant, but they do
not believe Christ to be God, but Christ is a created being that did not exist
before His birth. Many believe Him to be a chosen one by God, and that He is
now in Heaven, but will come back to earth, set up the kingdom of God in
Jerusalem, and will rule the kingdom, which will always be on this earth. It
seems to be OK to not believe in Christ as being equal with God, but not OK not
to believe God to be crueler than any other being, and that He will delight in
tormenting all souls that had been in the lost forever.
(15). PROTESTANT PREMILLENNIAL DISIVIONS OVER
HELL. From all the information I can find
there are many more Protestants who believe in some form of Premillennial
teaching than not. Premillennial variations found in the Protestants churches
are pre–tribulation, mid–tribulation, post–tribulation,
partial–rapture, many mini–raptures, already past rapture, the
tribulation period, historic Premillennial, Post Millennialists,
Dispensationalist, and many more; see my other book at http://www.robertwr.com/rapture.html Many of the
Premillennial versions of Hell are somewhat similar to either the
Seventh–Day Advent Version of Hell, or the Church of God Version of Hell.
Many of the Premillennial versions of Hell are far
from being what is thought of as being orthodox, but most all Premillennialists
are thought of as being Protestant, orthodox and traditional. Many of them
believe Hell is Gehenna will be restored on this earth, and believe all that
the lost will be destroyed in Gehenna, not tormented.
(16). THE HELL WITH NINE
LEVELS. It took nine levels of
torment with each one worse than the one above it to satisfy the imaginative
mind of Dante. The first level was for those who had committed no sins. Even the first of the levels, which he called circles, is a prison
for those who he says committed no sins on earth, but were unbaptized and
without knowledge of Christ. Each level or circle becomes increasingly
worse, consistent with the degree of the guilt of the sinner. According to
Dante the ninth circle of Hell is where the most evil go to, and it is reached
by a hole near the Northern Hemisphere that goes down to the center of the
earth.
(17). REALIZED
ESCHATOLOGY, THE A. D. 70 VERSION OF HELL. It is difficult to pen down
just what they believe. This Protestant version of this Hell seem to be that
death is the end of those who are not faithful, and for unbelievers there will
never be a resurrection. They believe the second coming of Jesus was in A. D.
70, the resurrection day was also in A. D. 70 when the Old Testament Saints
where resurrected, there is no Judgment Day to come, no day that the earth will
end. All the Old Testament faithful was resurrected in A. D. 70, which they
believe to have been the second coming of Christ, and after A. D. 70 the
Judgment Day of each person is the day of their death, (1) the death of the
lost is their end, they will never to be resurrected, (2) believers do not die,
at the moment of the death of the earthly body all believers change from life
on earth to life in Heaven without a resurrection. This seems to be their
general teaching, but whatever they believe is hard to understand, and I am
sure that are many variations within Realized Eschatology.
(18). THE ÒSUDDEN
REALIZATIONÓ VERSION OF HELL. A Protestant
version that is somewhat like the Roman Catholic Purgatory. When the souls
that had been in the lost stand before God at the judgment these souls will
suddenly realize how good God is and will repent. Some say it will take only a
short time, other say it will take a longer time unto these souls will be
admitted into Heaven, but when they are admitted they may not have all the
privileges of Heaven that the souls that had been in those that obeyed Christ
will have. This is just another attempt to make God less evil then most
orthodox Protestant versions of Hell makes Him, There is no passage that says
there is a soul that can repent of the sins of the person it had been in after
the person is dead.
(19). REPHAIM VERSION OF HELL–ONE OF
THE MANY PROTESTANT VERSIONS OF HELL, BUT IT IS DEFINITELY NOT ORTHODOX. This version of Hell is Protestant; as far as I have been
able to find no one teaches it but those who are called orthodox Protestants,
but it cannot be called traditional or orthodox. God, angels, and man (after
death) are disembodied energy being capable of thought and speech without the
need of a body. Rephaim is in the
Hebrew Old Testament eight times; it is defined in some Lexicons as
"departed spirits," "shades," "shadows,"
"ghosts," "name of the dead in sheol."
Three of the eight
passages are in Isaiah. This is a book of many symbols, much like Revelation.
(1)
Isaiah 14:9-11, "Sheol from beneath
is moved for you to meet you at your coming: it rises up the dead (Rephaim) for you, even all
the chief ones of the earth; it has raised up from their thrones all the kings
of the nations. All they shall answer and say unto you, Have you also become
weak as we: have you become like unto us? Your pomp is brought down to Sheol,
and the noise of your viols: the worm is spread under you, and worms cover
you." This is a symbolic description of the fall of Babylon, and it has
nothing to do with a person, and it has nothing to do with an immortal
something that had been in a person that is dead. In this metaphor the past
dead nations are nations that no longer existed, kings that were in these dead
nations raised up from their thrones, they were not in any kind of torment, the
dead nations were surprised to see a nation as strong as Babylon joining them
in sheol (grave); not many orthodox Protestants believe nations will be in
Hell. If all souls that had been in the dead were alive, why would the souls
that were already in sheol be surprised to see another soul join them after
that soul had left the person it had been in when souls that were in all that
die would join them? It would make no sense if they were surprised to see more
souls joining them. Even the trees join in with the dead nations and talk
(14:8). Only in a metaphor can past nations that are dead that no longer exist,
and trees talk (Isaiah 14:8).
In
this passage Rephaim, one word is translated,
1. ÒThe dead,Ó two words in both the King
James and the New King James.
2. ÒThe spirits of the dead,Ó five words
from one word in the New American Standard even though ÒruachÓ (spirit) is not
in the Hebrew they added it. There is no way to get ÒspiritÓ from Òrephaim,Ó but
the translators wanted to put immortal spirits in the Bible and added them.
3. ÒThe spirits of the departed,Ó five words
from one word in the New International Version. It also added spirits even
though spirits is not in the Hebrew.
4. ÒThe ancient dead,Ó three words
from one word in the Revised English Bible even though ÒancientÓ is not in the
Hebrew, and that the meaning of Rephaim is not even remotely kin to the meaning
of Òancient.Ó
(2)
Isaiah 26:14, "They (the
nations) are dead (Rephaim), they shall not live; they are deceased,
they shall not rise; therefore have you visited and destroyed them, and made
all remembrance of them to perish." This is about nations that did not
remember God being literally destroyed. It has nothing to do with an "immaterial, invisible part of
man" after death that cannot be destroyed. It is hard to believe this
passage is used to prove that a person has an immortal immaterial, invisible
soul, for if it were speaking of something in a person, then that something is
dead, deceased, shall not rise, no resurrection, and all remembrance of that dead
something that was in a person has been made to perish. If this were an
immortal soul, it would be nothing like the immoral soul of today's theology,
it would teach there is no life or resurrection after death for an immortal
soul, but this passage is used anyway to somehow prove that a soul is alive
after death, alive in either Heaven or Hell even though there is nothing about
Heaven or Hell in it.
(3)
Isaiah 26:19, "Your dead shall live;
their dead bodies shall arise. Awake and sing, you that dwell in the dust; for
your dew is as the dew of herbs, and the earth shall cast forth the dead (Rephaim)." Isaiah
is speaking of the nation of Israel that was dead, the people were slaves in
bondage to another nation because they had left God, now they had repented and
were being restored as a nation. Isaiah is not speaking of the resurrection of
any individuals Jews, or the resurrection of any persons or souls.
In
Isaiah 26:14, which is speaking of nations, the nations are dead and shall not rise,
shall not be restored.
In
Isaiah 26:19, which is speaking of Israel, it shall
live, shall arise, the nation of
Israel shall be restored.
If
these passages were speaking of souls that had been in individuals, as Robert
Morey in "Death and The Afterlife," on page 79 says he would have
these souls both (1) Òshall not riseÓ
(Isaiah 26:14), and (2) Òshall riseÓ (Isaiah
26:19).
Note, the King James Version in Isaiah 14:9; 26:14; and 26:19 translated
the Hebrew proper name, Rephaim, to Òthe
dead,Ó the New American standard changed it to Òthe spirits of the deadÓ Isaiah in 14:9, and Òdeparted spiritsÓ Isaiah in 26:14 and 26:19. Why did they change
what God said; the Hebrew does not say Òspirits
of the deadÓ or Òdeparted spirits;Ó
neither one is a proper noun, Rephaim is a proper noun, and there is no
authority for changing it into something that is not even close to what is said
in the Hebrew Old Testament. Isaiah 26:19 is speaking
of the nation of Israel, not of departed spirits. The New International Version
in Isaiah 14:9 says Òspirits of the
departedÓ when neither ÒspiritÓ nor ÒdepartedÓ are in Isaiah 14:9 in the
Hebrew but they added both. Is not this just another attempt of the translators
to change GodÕs word to put their view into the Bible, even if they had to
change the proper noun God used into something other than a proper noun?
The other five passages are in the poetical
books
1.
Job 26:5-6, "They
that are deceased (Rephaim) tremble beneath the waters and the inhabitants thereof. Sheol is naked
before God, and Abaddon ("Destruction" New International Version) has no covering."
2.
Psalm 88:10-12, "Will
you show wonders to the dead (Rephaim)? Shall they that are deceased arise and praise you? Shall your loving
kindness be declared in the grave? Or your faithfulness in destruction?"
3.
Proverbs 2:18-19, "For her ("adulteress" New American Standard Version) house sinks down to death, and her tracks
lead to the dead; (Rephaim) none who go to her return again, neither do they reach the paths of
life."
4.
Proverbs 9:18-19, "But
he knows not that the dead (Rephaim) are there; that her (the foolish woman or adulteress) guests are in the depths of Sheol."
5.
Proverbs 21:16, "The
man that wandered out of the way of understanding shall rest in the assembly of
the dead (Rephaim)."
In
all eight the noun ÒRephaimÓ is changed to ÒdeadÓ seven times and deceased one
time in the King James Version, yet they are somehow used to prove a soul that
is dead or deceased is not dead. All eight refer to nations or to lost persons,
and speak of their death, deceased, destruction, dead, not ever attaining unto
the paths of life again, resting with the dead. The dead are simply spoken of
as being dead persons or dead nations; nothing is said about a soul being alive
after the death of the person. There is
nothing in any of the eight passages above that say anything about a soul being
alive in Heaven, nothing about Hell, or nothing about the Abraham's bosom after
judgment Hell at any time, nothing about Hell before or after the judgment; all
eight of the passages where Rephaim is used are an undeniable contradiction to
the orthodox doctrine of souls being alive and going to Heaven, Hell, or
AbrahamÕs bosom after the death of the persons the souls had been in.
What do many believe? After
adding ÒsoulÓ that is not in these passages that are used to prove the souls
that had been in the dead persons; both the good and the evil souls are now "Rephaim." Many who believe all souls that had been in the dead
go immediately to Heaven or Hell at the death of the persons they had been in
use it although the rephaim version would make a soul not be in Heaven or Hell
where they believe the immaterial, invisible something that is now in a person
will be after the person is dead.
(1). The Protestant
versions of Hell, that the souls that had been in the dead persons are now alive in
Heaven or Hell.
(2). The AbrahamÕs
bosom after judgment version of Hell, that these souls are now alive in
hades with some on the good side of hades and some on the bad side (Luke 16),
that no soul is now in Heaven or Hell, but both use these passages and have souls
now being in four very difference places simultaneously, (1) AbrahamÕs bosom, (2)
Heaven, (3) Hell, (4) Rephaim.
(3). The Rephaim
version of Hell, that souls that had been in both the good and the bad are now together
and exist only as shades, or shadows, they are not in Heaven or Hell. Yet,
those who believe the Protestant version, or the newer AbrahamÕs bosom after
judgment version of Hell sometimes use "Rephaim"
to prove "Hell" even though it would put souls from all the dead
persons together, and not where they now believe these souls to be; Rephaim is definitely nothing like the
immortal soul of today's theology. The attack on Hell that is coming from
many in most all churches is forcing them to take views not many Christians
believe. The Rephaim version seems to be used only by Protestants who are
trying to prove a person has an immortal soul, but are hard pushed to find any
passage to prove it.
Which way do they go? "Rephaim"
is used by Protestants in a way that does not agree with what they believe and
teach; most Protestants believe that the saved will be in their endless home
with Christ in Heaven at death, but step away from this belief and say at death
the souls that many believe were in both the saved and unsaved are together,
and have only a weak shadowy existence, and will have this shadowy existence
unto the resurrection. Even if we did grant that Rephaim is the "immaterial, invisible part of
man" after death, it would contradict their beliefs about the
"soul" being in Heaven or Hell. It would make all the souls that had
been in dead persons be "shades"
"shadows." Anyway you look at it, the eight times Rephaim is used
they do more to refute the belief of a soul going to Heaven at death than they
do to support it. Are they so desperately in need of proof that a person has an
immaterial, invisible something in them that can never die that they reach for
anything, even if it is far from what they believe and want to find?
Robert Morey, an orthodox Protestant, has written one of the most
accepted and used books in defense of the doctrine of Hell that has come out in
recent years. In his book he makes an argument for Hell which I think shows
just how desperate he is for any kind of proof. In "Death And The
Afterlife," On page 79 he said from the meaning of Rephaim, when the body
dies, man enters a new kind of existence. Mankind then will exist as spirits
creatures, and experiences what angels and other spirits experience. Just as
angels are disincarnate energy beings and are composed only of mind or mental
energy, and are capable of thought and speech without the need of a body; when a
person dies a soul that had been in that person becomes a disembodied energy
being and it will be capable of thought and speech without the need of a body.
This is nothing more than another desperate attempt to prove there is an "immaterial, invisible part of
man" that has some kind of life somewhere without the resurrection. Not a one of the eight passages where
Rephaim is used says anything about a Rephaim being like God and angels. Not
one of the eight, or any passage in the Bible says God and angels are nothing
but thoughts. He must have made that up out of thin air and hoped you would
not see it is not in any of the eight passages. I wonder if he
sees how low he is making his God if his God were like the Rephaim in the eight
passages? That he is making his God be only "shades,"
"shadows," "ghosts," "name of the dead in sheol,"
or even making his God be dead.
(1). He has made his God,
angels, and souls that are in mankind be nothing more than "energy
beings,Ó to be nothing more than mental thoughts with no substance. Although he
did not mention God, he has reduced God to being nothing more than thoughts, an
"energy being." Morey's God has no body, no substance of any kind;
therefore, Morey's Heaven can exist only in the mind of God who is nothing but
mind; Heaven cannot be a real place; he must somehow make God, angels, and
souls all have the same thoughts, or the Heaven that was only in the thoughts
of each being would be an entirely different Heaven if their thoughts were not
exactly the same thoughts. Any being, angels, demons, saved souls, and lost
souls would each make their own Heaven or Hell in their own thoughts, if any
one being had different thoughts that being would have a different Heaven or
Hell than the others.
(2). He has made his God
weak. Morey has made souls and angels be described as "Are you also become weak as we: have
you become like unto us," even though this passage is speaking of
nations, not angels or souls. "God
is a Spirit" (John 4:24); Morey has spirits without bodies described
as weak, as being nothing more than mental thoughts, which would include his
God being described as weak, and being nothing more than mental thoughts. Is
his God just weak mental thoughts, is that what your God is like?
(3). He has made the
only difference in a soul after the death of the person and his God to be only
a difference in intelligence. He says both are nothing but mind
without any substance.
(4). He has made his
God limited. According to Morey, God does not have any substance; God is only
thoughts without a body. This has not entered the mind of most who believe
persons now has immortal souls in them, and if it did most would reject it, but
their belief that an immortal soul is now in a person means, according to
Morey, a soul, God, and all heavenly being are nothing more than thoughts
without a body. Robert Morey and others who try to prove persons now has an
immortal soul in them has been pushed into this belief. The belief that a
person has a dual nature dictates what they can believe about the nature of
God. They believe the immortal spirit that is now in a person cannot now be
seen for it has no substance; therefore, because God is spirit, then his God
can have no substance; his God can be only a mind with no body.
(5). Morey has developed Plato's
doctrine that the body is a prison to a soul, and that soul is set free by the
death of the body, far beyond what Plato ever did. To put a soul, an "energy
being" that is only "mind," back in a body at the resurrection
would be to put it back in a prison.
(6). Also,
Morey's Hell could only be mental anguish for souls. There would be no body to
torment. He has made it impossible for Hell to be anything more than mental
pain. Only something in the minds of souls that are nothing
but minds. None of the other "orthodox Protestant" version of
Hell could be possible; therefore, he has made that which almost all
Protestants have believed for centuries to be wrong.
(7). Morey has
made Paul not know what he was talking about when he said, "It is sown a natural body;
it is raised a spiritual body...there
is also a spiritual body" (1
Corinthians 15:44). He cannot believe in the resurrection. How could he when he
has made a soul be composed only of "mind," just as he says the
angels and God now are composed only of mind? There could not be a mortal that "must put on immortality" (1
Corinthians 15:54), for his "energy being" is now just as immortal as
it will always be, and even before the death of the person he believes a soul
is now like God and angels now are. There cannot be a resurrection of any kind
of body, not one in the image of Adam, or in the image of Christ, not the
earthly body, or the new spiritual body for there will be no body, nothing but
"mind." There cannot be a resurrection of the "mind or mental
energy," for they tell us that at death this "mind or mental
energy" would be just as it would always be; therefore, there could not be any kind of
resurrection.
What is their no
substance soul and no substance Heaven? What could Heaven be if Heaven has
no substance? God made all things out of nothing. If a soul has no substance
while it is in a person, it will still be nothing after it leaves the person.
Are they saying when God made angels and souls that God made nothing out of
nothing; and this God who made nothing out of nothing is Himself nothing?
THOMAS JEFFERSON in a letter to John Adams in 1820 said,
"To say that God, angels, and the human soul, are immaterial, is to say
they are nothing. At what age of the church the heresy of immaterialism crept
in, I do not know; but a heresy it certainly is–Jesus taught nothing of
it."
HEAVEN IS
A REAL PLACE
ÒFor Christ did
not enter a holy place made with hands, a mere copy of the true one, but into heaven itself, now to appear in the
presence of God for us,Ó (Hebrews 9:24; 8:5). The holy place made with hands was a
real place that was a copy of the true holy place; a real place could not be a
copy of something that did not exist, something that was only a thought in a
mind that has no substance. Christ entered ÒINTO
HEAVEN ITSELF.Ó If Christ and God were only thoughts with no substance, and
Heaven was only something in their minds, it would mean a thought entered into
the thoughts that were only in the mind of the thought; Morey makes this and many other passages to be pure nonsense. ÒIn My FatherÕs house are many dwelling
places; if it were not so, I would have told you; for I go to prepare a place for youÓ (John 14:2-3). Thoughts do not have a house with dwelling
places; Christ went to prepare a place for ÒyouÓ not for thoughts
only. Heaven is a real place with real
dwelling places for a real Òyou.Ó
You cannot prepare a place in a place that is not a place. There is not a hint
of uncertainty in ChristÕs statement about where He was going to prepare a
place.
(1). ÒIn my FatherÕs house.Ó Where is the
fatherÕs house? In Heaven, not on Earth.
(2). ÒI go to prepare a place for you.Ó
Christ was on Earth when He said, ÒI go.Ó
Where does He say He is going; to His FatherÕs house which is in Heaven.
NOTE, I have tried to give the views of the
majority in each in the above Protestants versions of Hell. In each of them,
there are many individuals and/or small groups who believe in many different
variations of that believed by the majority.
Summary, Protestants that believe in Hell contradict each other as to
what and where Hell will be.
1. Some believe
Hell to be a lake of fire and brimstone.
2. Some believe
Hell will be banishment away from the presence of God.
3. Some believe
Hell to be only mental anguish.
4. Some believe
God will give most of mankind to Satan to torment, as he wants to.
5. Some believe
God will not only be doing the tormenting, and He will have great pleasure in
the tormenting of souls.
6. Many believe
a version of Hell that makes God be infinite cruel by creating million
foreknowing that He was creating them with no chance to not be in Hell.
7. Some believe
many other contradictory versions of Hell; without doubt there are many other
Protestants versions of Hell that I have not covered.
NINE OTHER VERSIONS OF HELL
(1). The Abraham's bosom, or
the after judgment Hell; a newer version of Hell. This version is based
almost entirely on an interpretation of Luke 16:19-31 (see chapter eight, part
one). Most members of the Church of Christ, the Christian Church and many
Protestants believe it although it is not generally accepted as being orthodox
or traditional Protestant. In this version all who do not obey Christ will go
to Hell, but not unto after the coming of Christ and the judgment; and no one goes
to Heaven before the judgment, no one is asleep in graves and no one will not
be resurrected from graves at the coming of Christ. According to this version,
at death all are taken to an intermediate holding place where the lost are
alive and tormented, and the saved are alive and rewarded in a place called
"Abraham's bosom" in Luke 16. Instead of all being in Heaven or in
Hell unto the second coming of Christ, all are alive either on the good side or
on the bad side, and Christ will take the living souls out of AbrahamÕs bosom (not graves) at His coming, at the
resurrection dead that is not a resurrection, and the judgment, and judge them
a second time to see whether He made a mistake the first time and had put the
souls that had been in them on the wrong side of AbrahamÕs
bosom. After the judgment most now believe God will personally do the
tormenting for eternity of all souls that had been in the lost persons. Satan
and his angels will forever be tormented together with the souls that had been
in the lost.
This view has two places where God is going
to torture all the souls that had been in the lost; (1) in one side of hades
that is a temporary place of torture, and will last only unto the second coming
of Christ, (2) and "Hell," which after the second coming of Christ Hell
will be a permanent place where God will torture most souls without end. It
has no deathless souls that are now in Heaven or Hell, and no
persons or souls will not be in either Heaven or Hell unto after the judgment.
This is the view I was taught from the time I became a Christian, and I
believed it a long time. I have many books and tracts in which well-known
preachers and teachers, such as H. Leo Boles, E. M. Zerr, B. W. Johnson, and
many others who teach this view; but lately it seems to be dying out in the
church, and is being replaced by going immediately to Heaven or Hell at death
without the Resurrection or Judgment, particularly at funerals where preachers
often say a soul that had been in the dead person is now in Heaven. Most all
think of and speak of their loved ones, not souls that had been in their loved
ones, as now being in Heaven with Jesus, not in Abraham's bosom unto the
judgment.
In this version of
Hell, ÒWhen a ÔfaithfulÕ member dies, he or she does not ÔgoÕ to heaven or
hell. The person is not ÔsentencedÕ by Christ to heaven or hell until ÔJudgment
DayÕÉThere will be a resurrection of both the righteous and the unrighteous
(Acts 24:15).Ó http://bible-the-real-world.awardspace.com/html/church_of_christ.html
(2). Edward Fudge version, The short Hell, God will torment the
lost in Hell for a short time, then Hell will end, He uses the name Hell as if it was a name or a real place
that is in the Bible, but thinks that real place will last for only a limited
time, and will end with the total destruction of all souls in it, ÒThe Fire
That Consumes,Ó 1982 edition. Brother
Fudge believes there is a Hell and all the lost will be in it, but believes it
will be a short Hell that will end with the death of those that has been in
Hell for a short time, and they will be tormented by God for as long as they
are in Hell. He says, ÒThey will be
sentenced to hell where they will dieÓ (ÒThe Fire
That Consumes,Ó 1982 edition), but did not give one passage that tells
us the lost will Òbe sentenced to hell.Ó
Roger Dickson believes the duration of Hell will fit the crime, and then
will end. It will be short for some souls, and longer for other souls. He says,
"After the stripes have been given, then the destruction occurs, for which
there is no reverse." "Life, Death, And Beyond," page 162ff. If
I understand him right, he thinks the souls that had been in the lost will go
to Hell, but the not so bad souls will not be tormented by God as long as the
very bad. After the "punishment matches the crime" he says the souls
will then be destroyed (page 163). (1) "Shall
be beaten with many stripes" (Luke 12:47). This is used to prove there
will be an end after the stripes. He seems to think, "Beaten with few stripes" could not be as long as "beaten with many stripes;Ó therefore,
could not take forever; some souls would be tormented longer than others, but
the torment will end with death for all. (2) This short Hell is different from
the Church of God short Hell in that it will not be on this earth, and there
will be no second chance, FudgeÕs short Hell will end with death from which
there will be no resurrection. (3) The Universalist also has a short place of
torment by God, but it will end with all being saved.
The short Hell implies
that there is a soul that is in a person and that God will torment all souls for
the sins of the lost persons that souls had been in, some souls tormented much
longer then God will torment others souls.
1.
The fate of those not in Christ according to the Bible.
Death - Resurrection - Judgment - Second death
2.
The fate of those not in Christ according to Fudge.
Death - Resurrection – Judgment - Torment
in Hell – Second death
During the Judgment
there most likely will be fear and regret when the lost see what they have lost
by not being a Christian. Fudge then adds both a place and a time between the
Judgment and the second death that is not in the Bible, names the added place
ÒHellÓ and says that before the second death that God will torment souls in
this place he called Hell, some of the souls with a shorter time, some with a
longer time.
We are sometimes told
there will be life and torment after the judgment in the lake of fire a short
time for some, but a longer time for others. There is nothing in the Bible
about some souls being tormented by God in the lake of fire longer than He will
torment other souls, or about any place were God will torment persons or souls
that had been in persons after the judgment; that there will be such a place,
whether it is short or endless it is a 100% made-up
addition to the Bible to teach God will torment the souls that had been most
persons in Hell before He lets the souls die, whether the torment is endless or
short. It is persons that commits Òmurderers,
and fornicators, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liarsÓ (Revelation
21:8) not souls; it is the persons that committed these sins that will die, not
souls that cannot die, but we are told these deathless souls will die because
of the sins of the persons they had been in; but God will torment these souls
before He lets them die.
Death, pain, and
torment.
Natural death can be painless, or with much pain. A person can die in their
sleep with no pain, or suffer for years and die slowly. Violent death is the
same. It can be quick and painless, or death can come slowly with much pain.
Two persons killed in an explosion; one is blown to bits instantly with no time
for any pain, the other one is hurt badly and takes hours or even days to die
with much pain. After the judgment, death is the punishment, not being tormented
by God, the black darkness of endless nothing. There is nothing said about some
dying with little pain, and other dying with much suffering. Not anything about
God tormenting any after their resurrection and before their second death. The
second death is not a place of life for a short time or a longer time, there is
nothing about God tormenting them in a place called Hell or any other place.
F. LAGARD SMITH, a
teacher of Bible at Lipscomb University in his book, ÒAfter Life, A Glimpse of
Eternity Beyond DeathÕs Door,Ó also teachers there is a Hell, but a Hell that
will end, no one will be tormented without end. He says on page 191 that sooner
or later there is a point that the torment in Hell will end.
Death and
only death is the wages of sin; there is no passage in the Bible that says
wages of sin for a soul that will be torment in ÒHellÓ for a short time any
more than there is one that says souls will be torment in a ÒHellÓ that has no
end. The lake of fire is not a real literal lake of fire, it is a picture of
death, any living being cast into a lake of fire would be dead almost
instantly. John clearly said the lake of fire Òis the second deathÓ (Revelation 20:8), not life for a short time
for some, but a longer life of torment for others. Their punishment is not
being tormented by God unto they have paid for their sins and then the torment
will end; their punishment is an endless death, an endless punishment, (Matthew
25:46). A place called ÒHellÓ does not exist in the Bible, not a short Hell, or
an endless Hell. Hell is altogether a pagan teaching of man that was not in the
church unto the Dark Age Catholic Church.
(3). Christadelphians
version of Hell. This version says those who never heard the Gospel will
never be raised. Death is the end of them. Only those who heard the Gospel will
be raised at the second coming of Christ, and judged to see whether they were
faithful. The faithful will have endless life on Earth, which they believe will
be restored to be like Eden before Adam sinned. The unfaithful of those who
heard the Gospel and were raised will die the second death.
(4). Church of God version of Hell (and others). According to this version both Heaven and Hell will be on
this earth. After the resurrection of earthly bodies on this restored earth,
all will be given a second chance to accept Christ. Most will, but the few who
will not accept Christ will suffer the second death; their torment will end in
death from which there will never be a resurrection. The Church of God believes
the saved persons will be raised and live on the earth restored to be the way
it was before Adam sinned, with a body like Adam before he was put out of the
garden; that no person will ever be in Heaven. I have not been able to find how
they think Adam's body was different before he was put out of the garden than
it was after. Many Premillennialists who are in most Protestant churches
believe this version of Hell, or one that is very similar to it.
(5). Universalist version of Hell. The
"age lasting" Hell. This
Hell will last for only an age; then all will be saved. Universalist calls it a
time of "attitude adjustments," or "age-during correction."
They do not see it as God torturing souls in a literal lake or anything like
that, they see it as simply a time when God will be correcting or teaching souls
further unto they are fit for His kingdom. All, even the most evil, will
eventually end up in Heaven. See chapter nine, ÒUniversalist–The ÔAge
LastingÕ Hell.Ó
(6). Seventh Day Advent version of Hell. They believe that at the second coming of Christ the
unrighteous will be kill, the righteous will be taken back to Heaven for a
1,000 years. During the 1,000 years only Satan and his angels will inhabit the
earth. At the end of the 1,000 years Christ will return to earth with the
saved, and the unrighteous will be raised for judgment. Satan gathers his
angels, and will the help of the resurrected unrighteous attempt to interfere
with the judgment, they will be destroyed in a military battle that will take place
outside of Jerusalem; they will never be in Hell. The judgment and destruction
of the lost will take place on this earth. Their Hell will be on this earth and
will last only unto those in it are burned too ashes, the second death. The
saved will live forever with earthly bodies on a restored earth on which there
will be no evil. Advent believe
they will live forever on all this earth much as we now do, not just in
Jerusalem, they will build houses, plant crops, and meet together each Sabbath
Day. No person or soul that had been in any person will be in Heaven after the
1,000 years.
Just as with the
Church of God version of Hell, many Premillennialists who are mixed in most
Protestant churches also believe this version of Hell, or one that is very near
the same. The number of those who are called Protestant but do not believe any
of the orthodox Protestant versions of Hell is large and growing.
(7). Latter-day Saints (Mormons) version of Hell. They believe there will be three
Kingdoms, Celestial, Terrestrial, and Telestial Kingdoms. According to Mormons
all spirit were once in Heaven, some spirits were judged worthily to come to
earth where they will end up in three states of Òglory.Ó The highest, the
Celestial Kingdoms will always live on this earth with cities, houses, animals,
can have children and all things much as we now have. The two lower Kingdoms,
the Terrestrial and Telestial Kingdoms will not be on this earth, but they do
not seem to know, or do not tell outsiders just where they will be, but no soul
in these two kingdoms will not be in Heaven where they had been before they
came to earth, and they will not be on earth after the coming of Christ; those
in these two Kingdoms that will not be on this earth will not be allowed to
have children. All will be raised from the dead except for the sons of
perdition, which they say are the once faithful Mormons that become apostates
and left the Mormon Church; I have not been able to find if they yet have any
revelation about what will be the fate of the other two kingdoms other then
they will have little or no glory. Those who are not Mormons can go no higher
then the lower Telestial Kingdom, which seems to be a very low state that is
someplace not on this earth.
The
Latter-day Saints Millennium is unlike any other version of the Millennium; in
their Millennium they have both mortals and resurrected immortal living
together on earth in the Millennium, having children, building houses, and
doing most all things that normal people do now.
(8). JehovahÕs Witnesses, the grave is Hell. JehovahÕs Witness do not believe in the resurrection of the
lost at the judgment; when the lost die, they are dead forever. They believe
the grave is Hell, and all go to it at death. There is no knowledge or torment
in this Hell, just sleep or death. Some from many different groups believe this
version of Hell. They get support mostly from the older translations like the
King James Version, and most who believe it think the newer translations that
translate only Gehenna into Hell are wrong. JehovahÕs Witnesses believe Gehenna
is a trash dump. Gehenna is not the Hell they believe in. The Hell they believe
in is going on now with all the dead in it, both the good and the bad are
asleep in graves; all are asleep in this Hell but only the saved will wake up
at the Resurrection. All the dead are now unconscious, and there is no torment
of the wicked or reward of the righteous in "Hell" where all the
dead, both the good and the bad now are. In this version Hell will end for the
saved at the resurrection. They believe Hell is the Òcommon grave of mankindÓ
where all people go when they die and they are not conscious there.
This version is nothing more than a renaming of sheol
and hades much like the King James Version does. In today's English Hell has
come to mean a place of endless torment after death, and to translate hades
into Hell is an untrue translation.
JehovahÕs Witness believe that only 144,000 chosen people will ever
enter Heaven, and they will be changed to a spiritual body to live in Heaven
where they will forever live and help Jesus govern the church that will forever
be on this earth. All the saved will live forever on this restored earth, but
the 144,000 that have been made perfect and are in Heaven.
A.
B. ROBINSON, September 1996 (A Jehovah's Witnesses), "We do not have the
word 'hell' in the NWT. We translate gehenna as
gehenna, hades as hades and sheol as sheol. By doing this we can get the true
import of these words. Gehenna is a garbage dump and sheol
and hades often refer to the grave. We believe everyone who dies goes to 'hell'
or sheol (hades). The dead are unconscious, asleep if
you will (Ecc 9:5,19 and 1 Thes
4:13-16) and will remain such until they are resurrected. We also believe that
'hell' will be emptied, as is clearly stated in Rev 20:13.Ó
BRIAN HOLT in an e-mail to me said, "JW's
do not have the word ÔhellÕ in the NWT," then he said in the e-mail that
everyone who dies goes to Hell. If Hell is not in their Bible, how do they know
that sheol is Hell?
ÒTHAT IS WHAT JEHOVAHÕS WITNESSES TEACHÓ
CLARK PINNOCK said, "It
seems that a new criterion of truth has been discovered which says that if
Adventists or liberals hold any view, that view must be wrong. Apparently a
truth claim can be decided by its association and does not need to be tested by
public criteria in open debate. Such an argument, though useless in intelligent
discussion, can be effective with the ignorant who are fooled by such
rhetoric.Ó ÒFour Views on Hell,Ó page 161.
I
have been told that what I believe "is what Jehovah's Witnesses have been
teaching for years." One person said to me, ÒYou believe the same thing
Jehovah's Witnesses believe. Why don't you join them and leave us alone?Ó The problem with this is (1) I do not
believe as they do, that a grave is Hell; that I believe what JehovahÕs
Witnesses believe is an absolute false charge that is made for only one reason,
to seek to scare anyone away by associating it with atheists, evolutionists,
JehovahÕs Witnesses, Seventh Day Adventists, and others; I think those that do
such are not being honest. (2) That most all denominations, whether they
are occults, liberals, or whatever, teach many things that the Bible teaches,
and many things that the Bible does not teach. Nothing is right or wrong
because a denomination teaches it, not even right or wrong if the Jehovah's
Witnesses denomination teaches it. It is right if the Bible teaches it, or
wrong if the Bible does not teach it. Catholic, Baptist, Jehovah's Witnesses,
Church of God, and all others each teach many things that the Bible teaches,
and each one teaches many things that the Bible does not teach. Anything is
right if the Bible teaches it even if the Jehovah's Witnesses teach it, and
wrong if the Bible does not teach it.
JehovahÕs Witnesses teach adultery is a sin; is it wrong to teach that adultery
is a sin because JehovahÕs Witnesses teach it to be?
To
say, "That is what the Jehovah's Witnesses teach," is said for the
same reason the Baptist says, "That is water salvation," or
"That is Campbellism." Their
real problem is not that one of the occults teach it, but that they have no
other answer, and know that they can turn many off just by saying, "That
is what Jehovah's Witnesses teach," is just as the Baptist did with,
"That is water salvation." They could not show that a person can
be saved without baptism; therefore, they would say, "You believe in water
salvation" for they knew this would make others prejudice and not believe
the Bible. Now the same thing is being done to anyone who does not believe in
Hell by saying, "You are nothing but a Jehovah's Witnesses," even though what I believe is far from what
the Jehovah's Witnesses teach,
they believe there is a Hell, but it is going on now, and I do not believe the
Bible says anything about any kind of Hell; not one that is going on now, or
one that will be at any time after death. Unto the resurrection when ALL the
dead, both the saved and the lost, will be raised for judgment, death is death, death is not any kind of life, or any kind of Hell
anyplace.
The
Moslem religion believes in endless torment; can we say it is wrong because
those who believe in endless torment believe something the Moslems teach? No,
endless torment is wrong because the Bible does not teach it.
Why? What is the real reason they say that is what Jehovah's Witnesses
teaches? I think one reason is that they just do not want to deal with it, do
not want to take the time. The truth is that if Jehovah's Witnesses did believe
as I do, they do not, but even if they did as long as the Bible teaches it I
would say that it is great that they believe the Bible on that point, and I
would wish that they believed the Bible on all points. If you made two lists,
one a list of things any denomination believes that is not in the Bible, and a
list of things that denomination believes that is in the Bible, both lists
would be long. The persons who say "That is Jehovah's Witnesses
teaching" believes many of the same things that would be on the list of
things the Jehovah's Witnesses believes.
Some
of the many things Jehovah's Witnesses teach that I do not believe.
1.
Jesus was not the Son of God.
2.
The Millennium.
3.
Only 144,000 will go to Heaven.
4.
All the rest of the saved will live forever on this earth for all
eternity.
5.
They don't believe in blood transfusions.
6.
Hell is a grave and all the dead are now in Hell. Unfortunately,
it is not true that they do not believe in Hell, but JehovahÕs Witnesses
believe in a Hell that is now going on. The Hell they believe in is not the God
Slandering Hell that many Protestants believe in, but they do believe in Hell,
just not one of the many orthodox Protestant versions of Hell although many
Premillennialists who are called orthodox Protestants believe much as they do,
that Hell is or will be a grave.
If, "That is what Jehovah's
Witnesses believes" makes anything wrong, it is such a broad argument that
there is nothing in the Bible that is not destroyed by it, for there is no
Bible teaching that is not believed by many religions.
Probable origin of this
version of Hell. Sheol is translated Hell in the King James Version
thirty-one times, and grave thirty-one times. It puts all in Hell or in graves,
both the good and the bad, and a grave is a place that those in it know
nothing, according to the King James Version Hell will end at the resurrection.
If one believes the mistranslation of the King James Version, then he or she
must believe a grave is Hell version of Hell for the JehovahÕs Witnesses belief
about Hell is clearly taught in the Old Testament of the King James Version.
The Jehovah's Witnesses and others who believe this version have all the proof
they need in the mistranslations in the King James Version; I cannot see anyway
that a person that believes the King James Version just as it is would not be
forced believe in the same Hell that the JehovahÕs Witnesses believes in, the
Hell they believe in is clearly taught in the King James Version.
(9). Christian Science
Version of Hell. Both Heaven and Hell are only a state of mind; they believe there
is no real Heaven or Hell.
The Bible version of Hell. There is no Bible
version of Hell. Both the name Hell and the concept, a place where God will
forever torment the souls that had been in most of mankind was not known about
in Old or New Testament times, not known about unto the Dark Age. Christ or
Paul used neither the place nor the name. An endless place of torment for souls
was not known about by anyone unto long after the last page of the Bible.
WHICH HELL
DO YOU BELIEVE IN?
Most versions of Hell are based on the belief that a person has a
soul in them that is immortal from birth and is not subject to death. That
death is not death, the dead are more alive then the living, "You shall not surely die."
1.
Some believe
Satan is the tormenter. According to Jonathan Edward and most Hell fire
preachers, and most Protestant in the past believed Satan will be doing the
tormenting of all that are in Hell forever.
2.
Some believe
God is the tormenter. Today it has been changed to most believing God, not Satan will
be doing the tormenting.
3.
Some that are in many denominations believe Hell will be on this earth.
4. Some believe
Hell will only last for a while; but
will end with all that are in Hell being saved and going to Heaven.
5.
Some believe Hell will only
last unto the ones in it have paid for their sins, a short Hell, and then
all that are in this Hell will be destroyed.
6.
Some believe Hell is hot.
7.
Some believe Hell is cold.
8.
Some believe Hell is dark.
9.
Some believe Hell is only mental anguish.
10. Some
believe Hell is under the earth.
11.Some believe
Hell is metaphorical, it is not
literally hot, cold or dark; we cannot understand what it is really like, and
are given pictures to tell us how bad it is.
12. Some
believe Hell is who knows where.
Most, but not all, now realize there is not a chamber inside of the earth where
all souls are kept as it has been believed to be for centuries by Catholics and
Protestant, but now have moved it. Now who knows where they now think Hell is,
maybe somewhere out in space.
13. Some
believe Hell exists now, and the
souls that had been in the lost dead are now being tormented in it.
14. Some
believe Hell will not exist unto after
the judgment.
15. Some
believe Hell now exists with the angels
that sinned in it, but no person will be in Hell unto after the judgment.
16. Some
believe Hell is a place of separation
from God without any torment from God, a place where God is not at, that
the lost will have some kind of life that is life that does not come from God.
They believe that although God is omnipresent (present in all places at the
same time), nevertheless they believe God
is not present in Hell. They believe those in Hell are separated from God;
they believe death is separation from God, and the second death is an endless
life separated from God.
17. Some believe Hell is a place of Òfire and brimstone.Ó If you go back in time 50
or 100 years, most all preachers were teaching "Hell" to be a place
of "fire and brimstone." Today "fire and brimstone" are
almost never used by preachers, or in today's theology. Do you believe in the
"Hell" of today or the "Hell" of 100 years ago?
There is no majority
view of Hell today as there was in the past; no matter what view of Hell a person
has that view is only a small part of those that believe in all of the many
other versions Hells; if a person believes any one of the many versions of
Hell, they must disbelieve all the other versions; therefore, every one that believes in any one of the
many versions of Hells disagrees and are in conflict with all the vast majority
that believe in the many other versions of Hells. Believes in Hell are
becoming more divided and more in conflict with each other as time goes by;
even if there were a Hell it would not be possible for more than one of the
many version of Hell to be the truth; therefore, all the other versions, the
majority that believe in Hells would be vain worship (Matthew 15:9).
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Table of Contents
Chapter 1: ÒThe nature of man–what is man?Ó
Is at http://www.robertwr.com/index.html
Chapter 2: ÒLife or DeathÓ is at http://www.robertwr.com/life.html
Chapter 3: ÒThe great doctrines of the BibleÓ
Is at http://www.robertwr.com/immortal.html
CHAPTERS 4, 5, 6, AND 7 are at http://www.robertwr.com/hell.html
Chapter 4: ÒFrom where came Hell, from man or God?Ó
1. Unquenchable fire, weeping,
gnashing of teeth
2. Old Testament history of Gehanna
3. Gehenna used by Christ on four
occasions
4. The vanishing Hell
5. Twenty-nine plus version of Hell
Three Catholic versions of Hell
Seventeen plus Protestant versions of Hell
Nine other versions of Hell
Chapter 5: Sheol, Hades, and Tartarus
Chapter 6: The thirty-one Hell passages
Chapter 7: A strange and unexplainable silence of the Old
Testament on punishment and life after death, life, death, torment,
destruction, destroy, perish, die, and end
CHAPTERS 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, AND 13 are at http://www.robertwr.com/heaven.html
Chapter 8: Figurative language, metaphors, and symbolical
passage
Part one, The rich man
Part two, The symbolic pictures in
Revelation
Part three, The forever and ever of the
King James Version
Chapter 9: Universalist, The "age lasting" Hell
Chapter 10: The results of attributing evil Pagan teachings to
God
Chapter 11: Historical proof of the changing
of the teaching of the Bible
Chapter 12: IsraelÕs destruction, scripture about
the destruction of Israel that are misapplied to Hell
1. IsraelÕs weeping, gnashing of teeth
2. Outer darkness
3. Matthew 24
4. Preterits Eschatology
5. Realized Eschatology
6. A D 70 Doctrine
7. The day of the Lord
8. 2 Peter 3
Chapter 13: After the Resurrection
The fate of
those who not are in Christ
The fate of
those who are in Christ
Appendix one
ALL THIRTEEN CHAPTERS ON ONE WEB SITE ARE AT http://robertwr.com/resurrection.pdf
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OTHER WEB SITES of William Robert West, Church
of Christ
ÒTHE RAPTURE AND
ISRAELÓ can be downloaded free at http://www.robertwr.com/THE_RAPTURE_AND_ISRAEL.htm
THE PRINTED BOOK
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Ch. 1 After the Judgment where will we spend eternity?
Ch. 2 When will the secret
rapture come to pass? Will you miss it?
Ch. 3 Will there be cars
without drivers after the rapture?
Ch. 4 What is the battle of Armageddon?
Ch. 5 Is Armageddon coming soon?
Ch. 6 Will Israel be restored?
Will there be a worldwide conversion of Jews?
Ch. 7 Will the temple be rebuilt
in Jerusalem?
Ch. 8 Will animal sacrifices be restored?
Ch. 9 What are the signs of the
second coming of Christ?
Ch. 10
Who are the 144,000?
Ch. 11
Will there be one, two, or three
resurrections?
Ch. 12
What is the "time of the Gentiles"?
Ch. 13
What is the "gap" theory?
Ch. 1 4 Who is the thirteenth tribe?
http://www.robertwr.com/THE_RAPTURE_AND_ISRAEL.htm
http://www.robertwr.com/ReadMyEMailandReviews.html
http://www.robertwr.com/ReadMyEMailandReviews.pdf
http://www.robertwr.com/ThirtyOneHells.htm
http://www.robertwr.com/GodsJudgments.htm
http://www.robertwr.com/OppositionToHell.htm
http://www.robertwr.com/AD70.html
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ÒTHE INDICTMENT OF ETERNAL TORMENT: THE SELF-NEGATION OF A
MONSTROUS DOCTRINE,Ó by E. D. Slough, a preacher in the Church of Christ, F. L. Rowe
Publisher, 1914. I have put this book on the web free at http://www.robertwr.com/EternalTorment.pdf
http://www.robertwr.com/EternalTorment.htm
ÒLIFE IN CHRISTÓ by Edward White was
published in 1875 may have been one of the first major protest against the
doctrine of an immortal soul. For the most part this book teaches the truth on
the doctrine of a soul and Hell however there are a few things in it that are
unbiblical. I have put this book on the web free at http://www.robertwr.com/LifeinChrist.pdf
http://www.robertwr.com/LifeinChrist.htm
ÒA HISTORY OF THE DOCTRINE OF THE SOULÓ by D.
M. Canright. Although there are a few things in this book that I do not believe
to be right, it is the best I have seen on the history of the origin of the
belief in a soul being in a person that will leave the person at their death,
that this belief came from pagan sources, and is not taught in the Bible.
http://www.robertwr.com/soul.pdf
http://www.robertwr.com/soul.htm
GOOD WEB PAGES BY MEMBERS OF THE CHURCH OF CHRIST.
(1) Articles by Ken Fortier and C. Dickinson
http://kenfortier.com/site/articles
(2) "The Maxey—Thrasher Debate" A debate on the
eternal destiny of the wicked between two Gospel preachers.
http://www.zianet.com/maxey/MxThrshr.htm
(3) http://www.jeremyandchristine.com/articles/eternal.php